WEBVTT 1 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:11.510 Goldware, Rebeccah: Hi, everybody. We'll give it a couple more minutes and see if we can get some more folks to join, and then we'll get started. 2 00:04:06.410 --> 00:04:10.330 Goldware, Rebeccah: Renee, how many… can you check how many people we need for quorum, please? 3 00:04:10.330 --> 00:04:14.360 Vigil, Renee: I just checked it, and Elena got added to this, 4 00:04:14.910 --> 00:04:23.880 Vigil, Renee: committee as the classified, Trey just declined too, so you have 9 who sit on it, and you guys have 5, so you guys have quorum. 5 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:28.059 Vigil, Renee: And I don't know if, Jeff, if you can send a reminder that 6 00:04:28.190 --> 00:04:32.190 Vigil, Renee: Rita Clemens is the foundation member. 7 00:04:32.590 --> 00:04:38.700 Vigil, Renee: Who represents for the foundation on this committee, and I don't think she's attended in quite a while. 8 00:04:41.980 --> 00:04:43.130 Goldware, Rebeccah: Renee, can you. 9 00:04:43.130 --> 00:04:44.880 Kaatz, Jeffry: Okay, I'll… I'll do that. 10 00:04:45.940 --> 00:04:49.110 Goldware, Rebeccah: Can you check that Elena got added to this? 11 00:04:49.110 --> 00:04:50.860 Vigil, Renee: She did, I sent it to her yesterday. 12 00:04:50.860 --> 00:04:51.440 Goldware, Rebeccah: Sweet. 13 00:04:55.430 --> 00:05:00.340 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, I will send her a note. You said trade declined. 14 00:05:01.620 --> 00:05:03.600 Goldware, Rebeccah: And Janelle is here. 15 00:05:03.900 --> 00:05:09.050 Goldware, Rebeccah: And… Vivian and Ginger, I don't remember who the other… 16 00:05:09.320 --> 00:05:15.259 Goldware, Rebeccah: faculty person was, but we have quorum, so we're gonna go ahead and get started. 17 00:05:17.820 --> 00:05:22.869 Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't think we need to do, intros for anybody, do we? 18 00:05:23.130 --> 00:05:26.990 Goldware, Rebeccah: We can just jump in. Okay, I'm gonna jump in. 19 00:05:27.610 --> 00:05:37.599 Goldware, Rebeccah: I'm gonna turn my camera on, and then maybe it'll work. Great. So we'll officially call the order. Can I get an approval of the minutes, please? 20 00:05:38.670 --> 00:05:46.909 Harris, Vivian: Harris will move… oh, I'll second. I think white moved, and Harris seconded. Twins! Twinks! 21 00:05:46.910 --> 00:05:53.590 Goldware, Rebeccah: Thank you. And we'll do it by consensus, so if there's any opposed, please raise your hand. 22 00:05:54.180 --> 00:06:03.180 Goldware, Rebeccah: abstentions? Great, thank you. And Jeff, at this point, I will turn it over to you for the current naming request that's out there, and then we can jump into discussions. 23 00:06:03.370 --> 00:06:09.649 Kaatz, Jeffry: Sure, and I apologize, my camera's not working on my laptop right now, so anyway, I can't seem to get it to work. 24 00:06:10.850 --> 00:06:12.100 Kaatz, Jeffry: Anyway, so we have a… 25 00:06:12.810 --> 00:06:21.940 Kaatz, Jeffry: a proposed facility naming request for Judge Rafael Areola. He's an alum from the class of 65. 26 00:06:23.080 --> 00:06:32.749 Kaatz, Jeffry: And, it's… the family is, is, submitting the… the paperwork. Well, I'm… has helped submit the paperwork. 27 00:06:33.780 --> 00:06:36.610 Kaatz, Jeffry: For this, that's included in your packet. 28 00:06:38.510 --> 00:06:45.099 Kaatz, Jeffry: Unfortunately, the judge passed away about 5 weeks ago, so we were hoping to get this done before that took place. He was… 29 00:06:45.220 --> 00:06:46.670 Kaatz, Jeffry: was terminally ill. 30 00:06:47.930 --> 00:06:54.840 Kaatz, Jeffry: But the recommendation is to, recognize him as, by the naming of the 31 00:06:54.990 --> 00:07:01.739 Kaatz, Jeffry: The conference room that's attached to the law The law program's courtroom classroom. 32 00:07:02.070 --> 00:07:04.139 Kaatz, Jeffry: So, and that will… 33 00:07:04.620 --> 00:07:10.700 Kaatz, Jeffry: So, they are looking to commit… well, they're committing a $100,000… they're going to be signing a gift agreement for that. 34 00:07:12.530 --> 00:07:15.839 Kaatz, Jeffry: He has quite an extended family that lives here in the Riverside. 35 00:07:16.210 --> 00:07:22.039 Kaatz, Jeffry: area, and his nephew is actually a faculty member at Renee Valley. Adam, 36 00:07:22.540 --> 00:07:23.420 Goldware, Rebeccah: Novice. 37 00:07:23.420 --> 00:07:25.800 Kaatz, Jeffry: Yeah, the math professor, so… 38 00:07:26.490 --> 00:07:34.639 Kaatz, Jeffry: Yeah, so I don't know if any of you have questions about the documentation that's been submitted, but I'll be glad to answer any questions that you have for this. 39 00:07:35.230 --> 00:07:36.749 Goldware, Rebeccah: Thanks, Jeff. Hussain, go ahead. 40 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:37.929 Goldware, Rebeccah: You're on, you're good. 41 00:07:37.930 --> 00:07:41.230 Agah, Hussain: I'm just curious about the room. Is that the… 42 00:07:41.620 --> 00:07:44.589 Agah, Hussain: Main conference room where the board meets. 43 00:07:45.730 --> 00:07:52.959 Kaatz, Jeffry: No, there's a smaller conference room that's… Got it. If you go into that law classroom, that courtroom. 44 00:07:52.960 --> 00:07:54.479 Agah, Hussain: I built it, I know what it is. 45 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:56.039 Kaatz, Jeffry: Okay, yeah. 46 00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:59.620 Agah, Hussain: I just… I was wondering whether, in talking about the large one, but I know 47 00:07:59.980 --> 00:08:02.689 Agah, Hussain: Is it the second floor, or the first floor? 48 00:08:03.300 --> 00:08:06.549 Kaatz, Jeffry: That's on this, second floor. 49 00:08:06.550 --> 00:08:08.520 Agah, Hussain: Executive floor. Okay, thank you. 50 00:08:09.050 --> 00:08:20.410 Kaatz, Jeffry: Yeah, so the… Ariella was… has an interesting… I'll just give you a quick overview. He… he immigrated with his mom from Jalisco, Mexico, when he was 13, I believe. 51 00:08:20.410 --> 00:08:29.509 Kaatz, Jeffry: and basically had to enroll in second grade at that time in our program in Riverside, and got through that, and then went to RCC. 52 00:08:30.090 --> 00:08:33.349 Kaatz, Jeffry: For his, AA degree. 53 00:08:33.549 --> 00:08:48.830 Kaatz, Jeffry: I went on to Berkeley to get a degree in engineering, and came back and worked in Riverside for a while, and then got interested in law and got into Stanford Law School, where he graduated, and then spent most of his judge career in San Diego County. 54 00:08:49.500 --> 00:09:02.680 Kaatz, Jeffry: he retired and relocated to his family up in Riverside, and worked, you know, some retirement years. He did some work for the county Riverside Courthouse as well. So, interesting background. I think it's going to be a real… 55 00:09:02.860 --> 00:09:07.730 Kaatz, Jeffry: Inspirational story for future students that come through our program and read about him. 56 00:09:09.500 --> 00:09:10.820 Goldware, Rebeccah: Any other… yeah, Janelle? 57 00:09:11.520 --> 00:09:28.069 Janelle Wortman: We've probably gone over this before, but just remind me, the cost to… I'm assuming there'll be a plaque or something that's placed, or the naming of the letters over the room. Does that cost come out of the contribution, or how is that cost covered? 58 00:09:28.270 --> 00:09:38.250 Kaatz, Jeffry: Yeah, so the cost of preparing the plaque would be… because it's a philanthropic naming, it will come out of the donation that's coming to the district. 59 00:09:38.390 --> 00:09:44.369 Kaatz, Jeffry: If it's an honorific naming, then it comes from the college that it's being recognized. 60 00:09:45.400 --> 00:09:46.190 Janelle Wortman: Okay. 61 00:09:47.340 --> 00:09:49.919 Goldware, Rebeccah: Any other questions, comments, concerns? 62 00:09:50.980 --> 00:09:54.839 Goldware, Rebeccah: And Janelle, just so you know, later in the agenda, we're gonna dive into some more of that, so… 63 00:09:54.940 --> 00:10:03.129 Goldware, Rebeccah: I would like to ask for a motion and a second so that this item can keep moving. It is intended to go to Cabinet and then on to Board. 64 00:10:03.980 --> 00:10:06.110 Kaatz, Jeffry: I'll move that we approve it. 65 00:10:06.110 --> 00:10:07.100 Goldware, Rebeccah: Thank you. 66 00:10:07.100 --> 00:10:07.920 Agah, Hussain: I second. 67 00:10:08.190 --> 00:10:12.589 Goldware, Rebeccah: Thanks, Hussain. And anybody opposed or abstaining? 68 00:10:13.430 --> 00:10:28.840 Goldware, Rebeccah: Great, so we will pass that item on. Thank you. Under discussion, these… these all kind of… well, 3 of them anyway, kind of, go together. So, if we need to merge topics, we can. 69 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:42.069 Goldware, Rebeccah: right now, and Janelle highlighted it, there is no clear path from this group approving it, and it going to board, and a sign actually going up. 70 00:10:43.220 --> 00:10:57.129 Goldware, Rebeccah: So, that process, we're looking at clarifying. I think Jeff just highlighted at least an initial piece of it was who's paying for it. But the transition, and this becomes maybe a question for Hussain, the question of 71 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:05.720 Goldware, Rebeccah: Who is then responsible to carry it to make sure plaque gets created and is then installed? 72 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:17.580 Goldware, Rebeccah: We know who pays for it, but we don't know who's responsible for the operational piece of how it gets installed, and I don't know if that exists maybe in some other AP, but if it doesn't, I would 73 00:11:17.820 --> 00:11:35.479 Goldware, Rebeccah: going into the policy update section, I would like to, get my team to work with, and then, in that case, I think Hussain's team and or the colleges, respectively, to document and identify the process, because we're not always going to be here. So, Hussain, you started raising your hand. 74 00:11:36.680 --> 00:11:40.229 Agah, Hussain: No, I did not raise my hand, but you asked me to respond. 75 00:11:40.230 --> 00:11:42.180 Goldware, Rebeccah: Yes, you started. 76 00:11:42.180 --> 00:11:48.179 Agah, Hussain: I don't know if we have any… you know. 77 00:11:49.210 --> 00:11:53.239 Agah, Hussain: policy or procedure, but I would assume the… 78 00:11:54.140 --> 00:12:00.739 Agah, Hussain: You know, the vendor who will produce the plug, they will also install. 79 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:07.730 Agah, Hussain: And they will be responsible for labor, material, and equipment, installation, and everything. 80 00:12:08.100 --> 00:12:15.230 Agah, Hussain: With the guidance of the college, obviously, they have to… just like we deal with them as a normal vendor who comes in and 81 00:12:15.340 --> 00:12:18.349 Agah, Hussain: And do the work, but somebody else is paying for it. 82 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:24.190 Agah, Hussain: So, I just need to review it with, 83 00:12:24.570 --> 00:12:27.680 Agah, Hussain: With our team, and find out what will be the best, 84 00:12:27.850 --> 00:12:30.940 Agah, Hussain: You know, process and multiplayings, those kind of things. 85 00:12:30.940 --> 00:12:35.300 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, but we do have sign… we have standards, right, for signage? 86 00:12:35.500 --> 00:12:51.530 Agah, Hussain: Well, yes, that's correct. Those signage, that's basically… I mean, this is the district standard that we use for all our projects, for exterior, interior signage, those kind of things. So, we believe everybody needs to follow that, you know, all the donors needs to follow our own, you know. 87 00:12:51.530 --> 00:12:53.400 Goldware, Rebeccah: That's how I want to link these things, yes. 88 00:12:53.400 --> 00:12:54.070 Agah, Hussain: rock. 89 00:12:54.320 --> 00:13:06.940 Agah, Hussain: But again, all these signage, like the one that we do, it's part of the projects, whether Reno, renovation, or renew, will be installed by our own vendor, based on the plan, so… 90 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:21.909 Agah, Hussain: We may have… I need to double check. I know Renee sent me an email yesterday, and I told her I'll get back to you by the end of next week. I need to connect with my team to see, because currently we are working on the district standard as well. We are updating the 2012, 91 00:13:22.070 --> 00:13:23.470 Agah, Hussain: district standard. 92 00:13:23.570 --> 00:13:24.590 Agah, Hussain: So… 93 00:13:25.150 --> 00:13:29.989 Goldware, Rebeccah: That's actually… To your point, though, in the form that we've got. 94 00:13:30.170 --> 00:13:33.999 Goldware, Rebeccah: There is no opportunity. It's only honorific and… 95 00:13:34.470 --> 00:13:41.340 Goldware, Rebeccah: Philanthropic, but we need to have a separate section Where it's just a building. 96 00:13:42.830 --> 00:13:54.089 Goldware, Rebeccah: Because the buildings that you're taking to and through to board are still supposed to come through this committee for the name to go through, because the programmatic element is supposed to go through the 97 00:14:00.690 --> 00:14:01.720 Goldware, Rebeccah: Interesting. 98 00:14:02.640 --> 00:14:05.090 Agah, Hussain: I mean, talking about the new projects? 99 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:09.729 Goldware, Rebeccah: I'm talking about everything. The way that this BP is set up, everything goes through. 100 00:14:10.130 --> 00:14:12.210 Agah, Hussain: So… Kinesiology? 101 00:14:12.210 --> 00:14:13.420 Goldware, Rebeccah: should have gone through. 102 00:14:13.660 --> 00:14:25.779 Agah, Hussain: Yes, I mean, the name of the building, for instance, at Narco College, Center for Human Performance and Kinesiology. And that's basically the project name, right? 103 00:14:25.780 --> 00:14:27.719 Goldware, Rebeccah: Right, but that… so, but the board. 104 00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:28.979 Agah, Hussain: That's not the holding name. 105 00:14:28.980 --> 00:14:36.770 Goldware, Rebeccah: to go correct. So each of the buildings then get named, and that process is what needs to go forward to board. 106 00:14:37.710 --> 00:14:41.670 Agah, Hussain: We, we discussed this back then with the life science, physical science. 107 00:14:42.250 --> 00:14:43.720 Agah, Hussain: Right? And was… 108 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:52.379 Agah, Hussain: you know, some, it didn't go through this committee, it was kind of pretty executive level, like the chancellor, president, you know, there was some… 109 00:14:52.500 --> 00:14:58.880 Agah, Hussain: coordination, and we used to call it Life Science, Physical Science Reconstruction 4. 110 00:14:59.340 --> 00:15:01.380 Agah, Hussain: Business finance. Yeah, no, that's. 111 00:15:01.380 --> 00:15:02.979 Goldware, Rebeccah: That's the project name? And that's okay. 112 00:15:02.980 --> 00:15:03.490 Agah, Hussain: Like, they… 113 00:15:03.490 --> 00:15:05.210 Goldware, Rebeccah: You can call the project whatever you want. 114 00:15:05.550 --> 00:15:12.439 Goldware, Rebeccah: But the way that the board has approved this BP, the chancellor does not have delegated authority to name a building. 115 00:15:14.330 --> 00:15:14.680 Agah, Hussain: Yeah. 116 00:15:14.680 --> 00:15:15.140 Goldware, Rebeccah: Sorry! 117 00:15:15.140 --> 00:15:16.250 Agah, Hussain: of the process. 118 00:15:16.250 --> 00:15:23.250 Goldware, Rebeccah: We can… we can… it could be taken as part of the project to the board, and there's a sliver in there that… 119 00:15:23.630 --> 00:15:31.240 Goldware, Rebeccah: Facilities Naming has… right? Like, that part we can do anytime you have a project that's moving to a building stage. Like, I don't… 120 00:15:31.650 --> 00:15:34.940 Goldware, Rebeccah: One, the academic side of the house should have blessed the programming. 121 00:15:35.370 --> 00:15:47.230 Goldware, Rebeccah: Which is how you got the name. So by the time it comes here, we are just helping the process, stamping it so that it can go, because it's already gone through the Senate, and that is their purview to approve the name. 122 00:15:47.230 --> 00:16:01.610 Agah, Hussain: Right. Just keep in mind, when we have a project name, all our systems, Galaxy, project, like, all with the State Chancellor office and everything, will have to follow the same name, right? That's, again, that's a project name. I recommend that process happen 123 00:16:01.610 --> 00:16:08.220 Agah, Hussain: probably 6 months before the project opens, right? And we start naming those buildings officially, right? 124 00:16:08.620 --> 00:16:19.980 Agah, Hussain: So, as far as the Norco, it will be open by July next year. So, it's not, you know, probably early next year, we, you know, we may need to talk about what will be the name. 125 00:16:21.110 --> 00:16:37.329 Goldware, Rebeccah: Yeah, no, that's totally on your project side. We're just here to facilitate it, but… and if there's a different path that you want to send a paper through, and this committee takes administrative so that you can take it back through the approval process at the board, we can… we can work that out. 126 00:16:37.990 --> 00:16:44.669 Agah, Hussain: I'm not sure if it falls under Facilities Planning, it could fall under the college administration or the president of the college. 127 00:16:44.970 --> 00:16:58.069 Agah, Hussain: Because they… I mean, I don't have the leverage to, you know, like, who to involve, I don't know, at the college level. They may already… they may already be talking now about the naming that we didn't know until… 128 00:16:58.300 --> 00:16:59.800 Agah, Hussain: Last minute, but… 129 00:17:00.990 --> 00:17:14.989 Goldware, Rebeccah: Yeah, no, that's why all these people are on here. All of us, all these people, you, that's why everybody's here, so that we can make sure that the governing board… and I appreciate what Galaxy and all of the systems that the State Chancellor's Office have in place. 130 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:19.470 Goldware, Rebeccah: But one of the benefits of local control 131 00:17:20.609 --> 00:17:23.010 Goldware, Rebeccah: Which I am not a fan of, as you can tell. 132 00:17:23.660 --> 00:17:27.050 Goldware, Rebeccah: Is, none of those systems. 133 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:31.370 Goldware, Rebeccah: None of them. They would all be… have to be updated if the board, at their. 134 00:17:31.370 --> 00:17:32.070 Agah, Hussain: I'll be out. 135 00:17:32.070 --> 00:17:32.490 Goldware, Rebeccah: Yeah, so. 136 00:17:32.490 --> 00:17:38.390 Agah, Hussain: Well, they not necessarily have to be updated, they will be… Change. 137 00:17:38.390 --> 00:17:40.590 Goldware, Rebeccah: It's, it's a… but that's what I'm saying, like… 138 00:17:40.940 --> 00:17:54.840 Goldware, Rebeccah: I would rather do it correctly than have, in two years, our board change and some rando come through and go, well, I didn't know about it. Be like, okay, well, we did X, Y, and Z. This is an accreditation, it's just a different version. 139 00:17:54.840 --> 00:17:55.610 Agah, Hussain: Bye, bye. 140 00:17:55.980 --> 00:18:07.899 Goldware, Rebeccah: So, if there are things, and we did talk about potentially going back and taking other things, but I don't know that we need to go backwards. I'd rather just, like… 141 00:18:08.270 --> 00:18:11.359 Goldware, Rebeccah: Because it would be hard, and how I know it's gonna be hard… 142 00:18:12.090 --> 00:18:29.740 Goldware, Rebeccah: is signage. So, let me pause before we go to signage, but… so, Hussain, you're going to come back with some kind of general update from your team. We know we have standards in place in general for signage, so we want to make sure that this process links to, at the very least, that you have to use those standards. 143 00:18:29.740 --> 00:18:45.799 Goldware, Rebeccah: regardless of how… who it's decided to go to, whether it's your office on the district office side, or the, you know, Janelle's of the world at the colleges to help facilitate things. But once we know on your side if there is some level of documentation somewhere. 144 00:18:45.990 --> 00:18:48.629 Goldware, Rebeccah: Then we can kind of revisit and move this. 145 00:18:48.630 --> 00:18:58.309 Agah, Hussain: Yeah, we can provide the standard, and the way that needs to be installed, all the backing, the height, those kind of things, if we know, you know, like, just the… 146 00:18:58.660 --> 00:19:05.620 Agah, Hussain: the… document, you know, the standard, but I believe it should be also, you know. 147 00:19:06.690 --> 00:19:23.190 Agah, Hussain: when it's being installed and so forth has to be at the local level, but the college facilities, maintenance and operation, you know, at the college will… will help facilitate. I, you know, my team is on the planning side, the college team on the… on the, you know, implementation side. So, yeah, definitely. 148 00:19:23.630 --> 00:19:41.779 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, so we'll… we'll come back at the next meeting. This will be a follow-up item. We'll have the standard, and then we can talk about, well, frankly, Janelle, if you can talk to Trey, and see if the colleges have anything in terms of implementation, things like that. If you could bring that back, then we can… 149 00:19:42.020 --> 00:19:44.770 Goldware, Rebeccah: Have kind of a different level of conversation. 150 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:48.750 Goldware, Rebeccah: So, the signage process and standards will come back. Go ahead, Hussain. 151 00:19:48.860 --> 00:19:58.230 Agah, Hussain: Yeah, I'll, I'll also discuss it at our FBVC meeting this next Thursday, and just, you know, just so everybody would be at the same page. 152 00:19:58.230 --> 00:19:58.830 Goldware, Rebeccah: That would be great. 153 00:19:58.830 --> 00:20:08.080 Agah, Hussain: I believe it should be simple. We have the standard. Even in that standard, we can also define the method of installation, so it's also standardized across… 154 00:20:08.410 --> 00:20:09.889 Agah, Hussain: The board, yeah. 155 00:20:09.890 --> 00:20:27.479 Goldware, Rebeccah: Yeah, I mean, Janelle, there's at least two for RCC, with the drum studio now moving forward at the last board meeting, over at Coil, and then, the rack for Debbie Guthrie, and those would obviously be very different kinds of signage, so we'll… 156 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:30.629 Goldware, Rebeccah: Maybe that could be an example you bring back of 157 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:39.019 Goldware, Rebeccah: what the recommended process would be, if we don't have one documented, and then we can tweak from there. Does that kind of work? 158 00:20:39.770 --> 00:20:48.920 Janelle Wortman: I'm happy to talk to our management, and then reach out to the other managers at the other campuses to see what's existing, if there's anything that's been done in the past, and you. 159 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:49.399 Goldware, Rebeccah: That would be great. 160 00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:50.730 Janelle Wortman: moving forward, yeah. 161 00:20:50.960 --> 00:21:03.769 Goldware, Rebeccah: Cool. I don't know, just looking at timing, I don't know that we will get to meet before the end of the year, but we'll… we'll see. If not, we'll reconvene, in mid-February when faculty are back, and then we can continue the conversation. 162 00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:11.179 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, plaques. I'm gonna… it says RCC plaques, but I'm gonna make it kind of, in general. 163 00:21:11.750 --> 00:21:12.819 Goldware, Rebeccah: we have… 164 00:21:13.120 --> 00:21:23.480 Goldware, Rebeccah: a couple… we have plaques that are just kind of around. I'm not sure that we have a holistic list. We talked about it. Janelle, this is another follow-up for you in the… 165 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:32.050 Goldware, Rebeccah: your counterparts is, do we have a list of where signs are? I know the foundation has something, but it's not necessarily complete. 166 00:21:32.660 --> 00:21:42.289 Goldware, Rebeccah: We are gonna update the form, because using, Oliver Thompson as an example, the location that we're putting that, and Quad 240, 167 00:21:42.510 --> 00:21:44.090 Goldware, Rebeccah: There's already a plaque there. 168 00:21:45.320 --> 00:21:54.640 Goldware, Rebeccah: So, now we need to move that plaque that I took a picture of yesterday when I was on campus, so that… oh, the Earl McDermott Hall. 169 00:21:55.120 --> 00:22:04.899 Goldware, Rebeccah: First of all, that is not a hall. I don't know what that is, maybe an alcove, but I feel like these words have architectural design definitions, and that is not a hall. 170 00:22:05.040 --> 00:22:12.650 Goldware, Rebeccah: But that sign, if we're gonna do the Oliver Thompson sign, Has to move. 171 00:22:12.780 --> 00:22:17.920 Goldware, Rebeccah: And then that becomes the question of where. And then Ginger, walking around campus. 172 00:22:19.080 --> 00:22:25.859 Goldware, Rebeccah: sees Paul Roby's sign, and remind me, it's on… I was like, it's on, like, a history classroom. 173 00:22:25.860 --> 00:22:33.939 White, Virginia: Math classroom, yeah. Paul Roby was anatomy faculty, and the plaque has been installed outside a math classroom, but I think it's just a… 174 00:22:34.130 --> 00:22:41.050 White, Virginia: inversion of numbers. The anatomy lab is 301, and it's installed outside of 103. 175 00:22:41.050 --> 00:22:41.760 Goldware, Rebeccah: free. 176 00:22:42.350 --> 00:22:44.719 White, Virginia: But also, how did it… how? 177 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:54.400 Goldware, Rebeccah: So, that becomes a potential… and Ellie is aware of it, but this is, like, it becomes the question of, okay, well. 178 00:22:54.400 --> 00:23:09.630 Goldware, Rebeccah: where all of the plaques, especially as y'all are… all of the colleges have building going on, and there's… there's plaques places, right? We talked about Area Library and what we're gonna do, but the college has a plan, so that's great, and that's where some of this triggered from. That and benches. 179 00:23:09.630 --> 00:23:16.059 Goldware, Rebeccah: let's be real, benches with signs and stuff. And they're like, what do we… we need to tear this tree out, what do we do with the black? 180 00:23:16.360 --> 00:23:25.249 Goldware, Rebeccah: So, right, we've been talking about signs and stuff for well over a year now, which we're… it's gonna… it's like a mailing list, it's never gonna be done. 181 00:23:25.460 --> 00:23:31.629 Goldware, Rebeccah: So, this is really the Give Janelle Work meeting, I see, is what's happening. 182 00:23:33.010 --> 00:23:44.300 Goldware, Rebeccah: So, one, we gotta figure out the process so that we can have the Oliver Thompson plaque, as an example, put up, but then there's a plaque there, so now we gotta figure out where we move this plaque. 183 00:23:44.600 --> 00:23:51.190 Goldware, Rebeccah: Which is just gonna put more holes in the quad, and then apparently we gotta move the 103 plaque to 301, 184 00:23:51.370 --> 00:23:57.040 Goldware, Rebeccah: Which… I assume there's nothing there, but… 185 00:23:57.180 --> 00:24:03.430 Goldware, Rebeccah: And, fun side fact, Paul Roby was my dad's A&P teacher, and mine! 186 00:24:03.560 --> 00:24:10.429 Goldware, Rebeccah: I feel like that shouldn't happen! I don't feel like that should ever happen. 187 00:24:10.690 --> 00:24:14.729 Goldware, Rebeccah: So, what do we do? 188 00:24:16.330 --> 00:24:23.750 Janelle Wortman: I will reach out, but I… I was… while you were talking, I was, like, researching, because I remember, like, being… when I worked under Chip as the VPA, 189 00:24:24.050 --> 00:24:35.619 Janelle Wortman: I remember being involved in some of these discussions, and I do have an Excel spreadsheet. I don't know where it came from, but there is an Excel spreadsheet that, like, lists… it's broken out by campus and district that lists 190 00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:42.879 Janelle Wortman: different things. Now is it complete? Does it include everything? I don't know. But I do. 191 00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:43.900 Goldware, Rebeccah: Can you maybe share… 192 00:24:43.900 --> 00:24:44.969 Janelle Wortman: For it, yeah. 193 00:24:44.970 --> 00:24:49.640 Goldware, Rebeccah: Yeah, especially with Hussain and me, at the very. 194 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:57.710 Vigil, Renee: Send it to the Facilities Naming email, too, because we're trying to cross-pollinate with the foundation's tracker that they used to have, too, and… 195 00:24:57.970 --> 00:24:59.490 Vigil, Renee: Yes, that would be helpful. 196 00:24:59.490 --> 00:25:02.100 Janelle Wortman: I want to say that's where it came from, too, but I don't know. I'm wondering here. 197 00:25:02.100 --> 00:25:08.469 Goldware, Rebeccah: That's the thing, let's cross, let's make sure, and then we will have a list. Whether or not it's complete… Meh. 198 00:25:08.470 --> 00:25:09.220 Janelle Wortman: It's a start. 199 00:25:09.420 --> 00:25:10.850 Goldware, Rebeccah: Yeah, just from… 200 00:25:10.850 --> 00:25:12.930 Vigil, Renee: Rivas better than none, so, yes. 201 00:25:12.930 --> 00:25:24.960 Goldware, Rebeccah: Especially on the ones… I don't want to sound callous, but on the ones where people gave us large gifts to the program, I want to make sure that they are documented accordingly. If they're honorific, I'm not… like, it's still a thing, but… 202 00:25:25.280 --> 00:25:29.670 Goldware, Rebeccah: we want to be mindful of that. We have moved out of a building that has Paul, 203 00:25:29.670 --> 00:25:30.190 Janelle Wortman: No. 204 00:25:30.190 --> 00:25:38.310 Goldware, Rebeccah: Alan Powell's name on it, like, what's gonna happen with that naming, so some of that becomes a question of who's on first. Regina, go ahead. 205 00:25:39.150 --> 00:25:48.020 McKay, Regina: I think the foundation… I may have seen a spreadsheet in the foundation as well with the previous, like, long, long time ago. 206 00:25:48.170 --> 00:25:53.200 McKay, Regina: where they were located and stuff out. See if I could find that and send it to you today. 207 00:25:53.910 --> 00:25:59.810 Goldware, Rebeccah: And we can cross it with the list Janelle's got, so we'll figure out which is the most up-to-date, 208 00:26:00.030 --> 00:26:00.830 Goldware, Rebeccah: And… 209 00:26:00.830 --> 00:26:06.189 White, Virginia: Just from historical perspective, when I joined this committee in, like, I don't remember. 210 00:26:06.410 --> 00:26:26.100 White, Virginia: A long time ago, we got a list. That was the first thing that we did. We were given a list of where stuff was, and then we were asked to go to our individual campuses and provide information, and the list that we got, we couldn't verify almost anything that was on it. 211 00:26:27.090 --> 00:26:27.770 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay. 212 00:26:27.770 --> 00:26:40.859 White, Virginia: It was… it was… there was a lot of stuff that nobody knew anything about, and then there was a bunch of stuff that people knew about that was not on the list, and so then we had started to… but then… and then COVID happened, and then we cared. 213 00:26:41.250 --> 00:26:50.289 Goldware, Rebeccah: So, I think that's… we're revisiting that, and what I'd like to do is, where we can, especially when we have documents from the Foundation, we can link them so that we at least know 214 00:26:50.560 --> 00:26:55.459 Goldware, Rebeccah: on the ones where we can, what the paperwork looked like. 215 00:26:55.860 --> 00:27:04.220 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, so we'll start with the Janelle list, and this will be another one we bring back, but at the very least, we can figure out Thompson and Roby. 216 00:27:04.520 --> 00:27:08.910 Goldware, Rebeccah: as we're going through an iterative process. Sound good? 217 00:27:09.290 --> 00:27:15.270 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, I think that's kind of the archive piece 2. 218 00:27:16.150 --> 00:27:34.820 Goldware, Rebeccah: And the policy piece is tied with, the standards update, and then we'll update the AP accordingly, based on if we're going to point to another BP AP and or further define what the operational piece is once this committee and board have approved it, then 219 00:27:35.040 --> 00:27:36.649 Goldware, Rebeccah: Who operates next? 220 00:27:36.840 --> 00:27:44.640 Goldware, Rebeccah: we'll be… we can clean that up in the policy language. So I don't know if there's anything else for topic discussion under… 221 00:27:45.210 --> 00:27:49.730 Goldware, Rebeccah: from the agenda piece, I think we covered all of those four items. 222 00:27:50.410 --> 00:27:52.269 Kaatz, Jeffry: Yeah, this has been a good, good discussion, thank you. 223 00:27:52.270 --> 00:27:59.909 Vigil, Renee: And we might meet in the spring to discuss this without a naming item, just so that way you guys can keep this moving, so… 224 00:28:00.630 --> 00:28:07.439 Vigil, Renee: I know, historically, most of this committee is met only when there's Naming items, but then that way we can kind of do the cleanup in the background, so… 225 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:08.360 Goldware, Rebeccah: Yeah. 226 00:28:08.360 --> 00:28:08.990 Vigil, Renee: Just for perspective. 227 00:28:09.540 --> 00:28:16.089 Goldware, Rebeccah: Jeff, I feel like there was one more… that… We talked about… 228 00:28:17.220 --> 00:28:25.149 McKay, Regina: So, the ones that we have that are active right now, we just keep doing… what are we sending them to the Facilities person, or… 229 00:28:25.360 --> 00:28:34.180 Goldware, Rebeccah: Yes, but I think we need to update the form so that it references, academic programming or new facilities. 230 00:28:34.360 --> 00:28:41.079 Goldware, Rebeccah: Not just honorific and… Philanthropic, because this committee does move through 231 00:28:41.410 --> 00:28:43.690 Goldware, Rebeccah: And we'll have to think about what the… 232 00:28:44.760 --> 00:28:53.639 Goldware, Rebeccah: requirements for that content is, because Hussain's not getting a letter from the president, like, that's dumb. Like, it should just be the application package, and then we need a separate 233 00:28:54.110 --> 00:29:01.900 Goldware, Rebeccah: we probably, on the academic programming side, I think it would just be maybe a letter from the Senate president of the college? 234 00:29:02.330 --> 00:29:03.129 Goldware, Rebeccah: What do you… 235 00:29:03.340 --> 00:29:06.819 McKay, Regina: We're talking about the ones that are already flew by the borders. 236 00:29:07.190 --> 00:29:09.180 Goldware, Rebeccah: No, I'm talking about moving forward. 237 00:29:09.180 --> 00:29:13.000 McKay, Regina: Oh, no, I was talking about the ones that are, like, Guthrin. 238 00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:15.259 McKay, Regina: I still have to process hard. 239 00:29:15.940 --> 00:29:18.859 Goldware, Rebeccah: No, it's been through board, now we just hand it off to the college. 240 00:29:18.860 --> 00:29:20.990 McKay, Regina: Okay, awesome, that's what I will be doing. 241 00:29:20.990 --> 00:29:38.390 Vigil, Renee: Rebecca, just a suggestion, like, can everybody from the committee take a look at the actual new form and then provide feedback? Because if we need to just make, like, separate forms, we could just do, like, hyperlinks, hey, if yours is, like, honorific, if it's philanthropic, or if it's an other… like, that might that… maybe that'll be helpful? I don't know. 242 00:29:38.390 --> 00:29:42.619 Goldware, Rebeccah: I want to think about it. We may bring it back to this committee at the next meeting. 243 00:29:42.620 --> 00:29:44.060 Vigil, Renee: want to mow it over and, like, kind of. 244 00:29:44.060 --> 00:29:45.669 Goldware, Rebeccah: Yeah, they will. 245 00:29:45.780 --> 00:29:53.430 Goldware, Rebeccah: But Vivian and Ginger, when it is an academic program, in theory, just having a letter from the Senate. 246 00:29:53.540 --> 00:30:01.490 Goldware, Rebeccah: Because by the time the Senate President's gonna sign off on it, it will have already gone through whatever the necessary curriculum, etc. 247 00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:05.630 Goldware, Rebeccah: Creating the programmatic name, right? 248 00:30:06.370 --> 00:30:08.430 Goldware, Rebeccah: That should be… good enough. 249 00:30:08.430 --> 00:30:09.120 White, Virginia: So, yeah. 250 00:30:09.120 --> 00:30:22.859 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, okay, so on that one, we can just have it be the… whoever the Senate president is, and then Hussain will talk with you about what the right verbiage is for the package, or reference back to a different 251 00:30:23.230 --> 00:30:25.910 Goldware, Rebeccah: Document so that we can… 252 00:30:26.050 --> 00:30:29.280 Goldware, Rebeccah: As your building projects are moving to and through. 253 00:30:29.410 --> 00:30:31.139 Goldware, Rebeccah: We'll have to think that one through. 254 00:30:32.320 --> 00:30:35.230 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay. Anything else? 255 00:30:35.620 --> 00:30:36.880 Goldware, Rebeccah: For the group? 256 00:30:38.280 --> 00:30:42.829 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, I… like I said, it's basically November. I don't know that it's… 257 00:30:42.980 --> 00:30:56.819 Goldware, Rebeccah: It's possible, but I don't… Hussain maybe let me know in the next week or so how much time, and Janelle the same, and then we can decide if we need to wait until February to give staff enough time to pull stuff meaningfully together. And then we can look at, mid to late February to meet. 258 00:30:57.210 --> 00:30:58.160 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay. 259 00:30:58.320 --> 00:31:02.310 Goldware, Rebeccah: Cool. If I don't see y'all, have a good one, and we will, talk soon. 260 00:31:02.310 --> 00:31:02.990 Kaatz, Jeffry: Thank you. 261 00:31:03.230 --> 00:31:03.900 Goldware, Rebeccah: Bye. 262 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:05.100 Agah, Hussain: Thank you.